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[copied from Facebook Group Discussion]

Hi everyone!

I was asked to share my perspective on using clay externally, to detox the skin (clay facials in particular)... so, my thoughts are here.  Please feel free to contribute your own wisdom to this thread. 

To qualify my thoughts on the matter, here, I'm just exploring some of the ideas on the subject that are a bit less common!  Please remember that I tend to do things to the extreme... There are lots of different ways to use clay, not just my ways!

The person asking is going to be writing about it.  If teaching, or writing a blog post, etc., I would start off by documenting a cool experiment (at least, it was incredible to me at 21 years old).  Seeing is believing!  Seeing how hydrated clay actually works on the pores of the skin provides amazing perspective.  It also highlights the "healing" idea that clay works "with" the body, not just "on" the body!

Take hydrated clay gel (this works much better with water loving (swelling) clays like our green desert clay)  and put a relatively thick layer on ONE SIDE of the face only... Keep it wet/moist for about 15 minutes.  You can use a spritzer bottle with EIS silver, rosewater, or just plain water so that it never even starts to dry.

...After the 15 minutes, quickly remove it with neutral-temperature water, so that the temperature of the water cannot be credited for the results.   Examine the skin carefully, and you'll likely notice that the pores of the skin OPEN UP on the side of the face where the clay was applied.  You can see exactly how the drawing power of clay works by comparing the two sides of the face.

So, in this case, rather than using fancy terms like CEC or ion exchange capacity, I like to use use the old fashioned term "drawing power" to describe this particular clay action, because CEC-- sorption-- works by contact only, and cannot explain the deep action of clay.

Taking pictures of this process is a great way to educate people.  So many "Aztec"-type users think that clay action is due to the drying of the clay squeezing the pores.  They like to market to that "pulsing/pulsating" sensation that happens as clay begins to dry on the skin.

When I used to teach "Hollywood types" how to do clay for facials, I taught them to never allow clay to dry at all.  It is not necessary.  So many people here have their skin/face directly tied with their income, so paying careful attention to detail here can be beneficial. 

Now, I do love a good clay mask that dries, pulses, and really deep cleans via physical action, but doing this often will eventually increase wrinkles, and it also dries the skin out much more than is actually needed.

A thick clay "pack" applied to skin will work to cleanse ALL of the dermal layers, given enough repetition.  This can be a problem, because sometimes the body holds toxins in-tissue on purpose.  Then, when you liberate toxins, they cause the face to break out (etc.).  However, if a person's diet is right for them, eventually using clay for skin care can result in profound healing for the skin.

A person who already has good skin usually reports great skin via clay use.  A person with problematic skin will usually report great improvements.  A person with serious detox issues can run into challenges, but those challenges just highlight the fact that the person has some work to do in order to avoid more long term health trouble.

When clay results in challenges, they are usually what I call "exteriorizations".  An exteriorization is where via clay use, a LATENT condition that has been dormant becomes active and visible.  Many times this is because the immune system's "lights" turn on to the condition in question.  Sometimes this is due to the mobilization of diseased tissue, pathogens, or toxins, but not always. 

Exteriorizations, while rarer when just using clay for skin care, are always a good thing.

In this writing, I'm not even going to go into how valuable clay is for a myriad of challenging pathogenic infections!

Sometimes using clay on the skin also begins to pull toxins out of the fat deposits below the skin.  That's truly how powerful the clay is.  This effect is directly related to the amount of clay used on-body, so this usually would only occur when using clay as a thick poultice.

Sometimes clay even pulls FROM the lymph system out THROUGH the skin... and that can cause some very scary results in rare cases.  People have reported ejecting glass-like shards from the skin, wood splinters, tiny bits of metal, etc.  When I first started hand mixing clay (literally mixing it with my hands), I was amazed for a few months what was ejected via the skin of my hands; usually the palms. 

Even when larger "pieces" of debris are ejected via clay use on the skin, it is always painless.  In fact, using clay to remove staples from skin graph donor sites is one of the most amazing things I've seen...  The situation went from the person screaming at each pluck of the "plyers" trying to rip the staples out of the skin... to dozens of staples being ejected without any effort at all, and painlessly.

For healthy skin, it takes about 4 hours or so for the skin to re-hydrate after a clay treatment (under normal conditions).  Therefore, it can be wise to protect the skin during that "recovery" time.  The best thing I've found is a Frankincense facial serum... very light weight, very gentle.... especially for sensitive skin that often won't tolerate thick creams or layers and layers of surface oil on the skin.

I also use a ROSEWATER spritzer with EIS silver to spray on the skin (coating the clay) during the treatment...  just to keep the "pulling" polarized TOWARD the skin, and to prevent clay from drying... not using so much that it runs, just a light misting.

Also, for skin care, clay can also work to exchange substances (known as its ion exchange capacity).  A great way to demonstrate this is to make a clay paste rich with high grade olive oil.  Each clay is different, so I can't give ratios... but it CAN be mostly olive oil, but with enough clay to hydrate the clay.  Every clay is different, different waters are different, and different oils are different. 

A great "ad hoc" way to make it quickly is to take a real thick clay gel/paste, and slowly mix in some olive oil.  Our green desert clay is different than other clays, I'm not exactly sure why, but you will notice an amazing texture change once the clay "accepts" the olive oil.  It's transformative in a way similar to alchemical processes of the ancients.

Perhaps of interest, in my personal formulations, I always operate off of the principle of "two becoming one"... so, when able, I like to fully realize single reactions before mixing in more ingredients.  Commercially, this is not easy to do, but it is easy to do at home.  When experimenting, you'll learn a lot more by practicing this, rather than throwing all ingredients together at once!

With the olive oil clay facial...  Here you do a treatment by just leaving the clay on for 10-15 minutes.  There is no need to do anything but let the clay sit.  It should be thick enough so that the skin cannot breath, but it doesn't have to be "poultice" thick.  Maybe 1-2 millimeters thick or so.

When done, remove the clay, and gently wash the face with nice warm water.  Pat dry.

A cool thing happens:  There will be olive oil IN the skin, but not sitting ON the skin (provided that the clay was not over-saturated with olive oil).  Don't use so much olive oil that it doesn't mix with clay or continues to separate from the clay...  too much olive oil, and the oil will build up on the clay surface (and then perhaps the face as well).  It should be a cohesive gel, not too wet and not too dry.

Of course, a favorite is the apple cider vinegar and water clay facial.  This combination is excellent, because it doesn't disturb the pH of the skin as much, and the acid works quite differently to cleanse skin than clay.  The old "spa and skincare clay" that we used to make and sell was pH balanced with the consideration that healthy skin pH is slightly acid, from pH 4.5 to about pH 6.7.  We used an amazing acidic clay to blend in with our green desert clay (alkaline) and the red desert clay (very close to pH neutral).

Another thing that is compatible with clay use is high grade/pure aloe vera gel.

I do ****not**** consider herbs, in their native form, to be co-compatible with clay therapeutics.  For me, when a person uses clay with herbs, the person is practicing HERBOLOGY, not pelotherapy/clay therapy! I have many reasons for this perspective.  To be clear, it is perfectly fine as a part of the practice of herbology to use clay.  Dr. Schulze, for example, has always used edible clay along with slippery elm for digestive system cleansing internally (among other herbs).

That said, essential oils are so chemically pure (composition) that they ARE co-compatible; there is nothing really for clay to react with to break down... EOs do not change the way clay works.... You just have to be careful not to use too much.  And you can't formulate by the strength of the smell, because clay sorpts/absorbs much of EO; the EOs won't smell as much, but they will still be fully potent when used on the body.
A few words on the application of "spa" clay:

You always see fancy spas using wooden (or plastic) spoons to apply clay, and then the practitioner smooths it over until it looks perfectly smooth and to where the "coat" is applied uniformly...

...consider NOT doing that if your idea is to achieve mastery!

If you want the best effects, apply the final clay layer without ANY compression whatsoever. You don't want to compress the very amazing and fragile charge layers if you can help it.

Also, consider applying it as if you were making an ocean surface rather than a glassy lake surface.. meaning, let it be highly textured.

This changes the way the information works in/with clay and the body in ways that are baffling to me.

As quantum  physics expands our understanding of the micro-cosmic universe, we have learned that therapeutic clay has information that it passes to the WATER upon hydration.  We believe that this information is then stored in the Quantum field in wave form.... but, much of the information is actually stored by the field that the water generates.

I can't exactly explain the difference, but many people can actually feel the difference having compared  both methods! (meaning, highly textured, almost "fluffed", and applied with attention to avoid compressing the clay as much as possible).

Of course, spas are always going to apply clay in the traditional way, and that is just fine... It's certainly not "wrong", I'm just saying that there is quite a difference between different methods... and the more water a particular clay holds naturally, the greater the difference can be.


For those with amazing healthy and "glowy" skin, I do the most powerful facial possible this way:

First I apply a tacking coat. Almost like people put on their thousand dollar facial cream...  So that it goes into the pores, and dries almost instantly... but NOT enough to actually STRETCH OUT the skin.  This can also be done as a quick fascia massage, as apposed to a deep tissue massage... by applying very little actual pressure on the skin while applying the clay.

Then I put a second coat on, that is just a bit thicker, but still a very thin tacking coat.

I do the second layer quickly so that it doesn't fully dry. It might tighten JUST a pinch, but not that much.

Then, I apply a thick coat of clay, "plopping" it gently on the skin, then using my fingers to carefully spread it out a bit without compressing the clay at all.

At this point, I like to texture it, which almost has a "fluffing" effect... so it's actually expanding the charge layers a bit, as apposed to compressing them by applying downward pressure on the face/skin.

Then, I use a rosewater/silver spritzer every so often, to keep the clay from drying (but not so much that it runs down the face).  This keeps the clay "fully" bio-energetically active, and prevents the skin from stretching.

Treatment time is variable... from a short 5 minutes to 20 minutes.

Finally, the clay is gently removed, and the face is gently rinsed with warm water carefully so that all of the clay particles are removed.  Remember to always remove ALL of the clay.  The clay will adhere to any damaged tissue (but tends to be repelled by actual scar tissue, it seems they have a LIKE electrical charge/field) and so there may be places on the skin that need extra attention for rinsing/removal.

Pat dry the face, and then apply a high quality facial serum.

This treatment can be too powerful of a treatment for people with problematic skin.


Another thing I would like to add:

The water used matters and so does the way you hydrate the clay.  I've spent a LOT of time studying natural and "artificial" waters because I noticed such a great difference in formulations just by using different types of water or water sources.

Hint:  A great water to use is "The Water of Presidents", if you must use an "out of the bottle" water to hydrate clay with.  Despite what some tend to believe, RO (Reverse Osmosis) is excellent, although I consider it nearly "blank".

See an example of a clay hydration tutorial below. You don't have to go crazy when making clay gel/paste, but you can if you want!

The structured water I use here is a deeply RESTING water... and by naturally hydrating clay without mixing, you create a HEAVY/DENSE clay, which is almost exactly opposite from the way spas tend to use clay for facials.

"Resting water" is apposed to a highly ACTIVE water, and using a mixing device to create a very LIGHT (or even 'fluffy') clay.

If you don't want the "dragon" portion of this formula, only use a TINY amount of dragon sole...  The dragon sole is VERY powerful and tends to be pungent.


If I think of anything else, I'll post it here!

[from Eytons' Earth Correspondence]

Hi Jason,

Can H2O2 be used against lung cancer?


Actually, I'm sure it can, but the big problem is finding the right concentration, and the issue with cancer and H2O2 (any oxygen therapy) is extremely complex.  H2O2 production is sometimes already present with tumors because of a metabolic failure, AND if you use too high of a concentration it is going to cause way too much tissue damage, it can even cause severe hemorrhaging (I've seen this PERSONALLY with cancerous lesions and ozone therapy).

BUT, with all of those questions and problems, I don't think that this form of therapy (bio-oxidative) should be dismissed.  I think we need to look at it carefully, and also NEVER try to rely on it as a stand-alone cure.  When metabolic processes outside the tumor are failing, those need to be corrected.  Identifying the CAUSE, and correcting it, restoring the body itself to homeostasis, should always be done as the primary goal.

I got an email once from a reader who found some of my articles on ozone.  He had pretty bad sinus issues, and then was diagnosed with lung cancer.  In order to breathe better, for his sinuses, JUST so that he could get a good night's sleep, he bought an ozone air purifier.

He got really "lucky" (I personally don't believe in luck!).  He placed the ozone-generating air purifier in his room in just the right place to keep the ozone below the irritation level while still saturating the room with a small amount of ozone.

After months, he accidentally cured his cancer... while he was just trying to breathe easier through his sinuses.  Imagine accidentally curing cancer! ;)

After his story, I began doing some in depth research, and found an authentic study that shows something like 0.1 - 0.3 PPM of ozone destroys lung cancer cells without harming "good" cells.   That is a VERY low level of ozone, and nobody in the field of ozone therapy would even consider that to be a therapeutic amount!

But, tracking ozone concentration would have to be done continuously (concentration is always variable based on numerous factors) AND  the equipment needed to determine exact concentrations can be expensive...  too much ozone, just like too much H2O2, can cause real problems, especially in areas of tissue damage and/or illness.

Please consider that ozone therapy, and H2O2, are both CHALLENGE therapies, what are also known as HORMESIS therapies.  They don't work by healing, they work by forcing the body to do very specific things, which stress the body, but cause highly beneficial effects.  Yes, they also have a direct effect, but the hormesis can never be dismissed, because you always have to be careful when "challenging" an ill person, and manage things with care.

If it were me, I would use a top notch ozone purifier, and keep experimenting where to put it and how high to have it running... and try to find a way to keep the concentration low, well below the point of causing any irritation.

With H2O2, the treatment method would be nebulizing it.  I have absolutely no idea the proper concentration.  To be clear, a too high concentration of ozone or H2O2 can cause serious hemorrhaging.  If this happens, and it is not in the lungs, it might be scary, but the body usually responds and it stops on its own (with no further ozone exposure).  So, erring on the side of caution, and also not RELYING on bio-oxidative therapy for a "cure" would be very wise.

Would I actually RECOMMEND it to someone?  Absolutely not.  There are way too many unknowns. 

Would I be open to trying it myself?  Absolutely.  I'm getting better and better at tuning in and listening to my body!  Plus, I already have experience with both H2O2 and ozone, so I know how my body SHOULD respond, and I'm not afraid of either one.  Remember, fear also produces a stress response, and the fear of something can actually be more detrimental, rather than healing, even if the substance is fine!

For everyone with cancer, I recommend researching very carefully Dr. Nicholas Gonzales' work with pancreatic enzymes... but you have to use a LOT of them.  Hundreds of dollars worth per month, handfuls at a time.  I've put a LOT of time into looking at this, and have corresponded with individuals who have even cured stage 4 pancreatic cancer.  Some people think that it might work with the pancreas because you are using pancreatic enzymes, but this is not the case.  There has been a smear campaign by the medical community regarding this type of therapy, but you just have to research deeper.

I don't remember off hand how much he recommends, but it has to be a very specific strength/product, as well.  Another doctor thought more powerful would be better, but all of his patients kept dying.  Gonzales realized that the co-factors were just as important, and that the strength had to be exacting.  His protocols are available online and can be found with a internet search!

[from Eytons' Earth email discussions]

...I should have updated you after this email thread!! —we were safe, have never caught covid, and
so far so good, still.

I finally got a giant bucket of clay but have been reluctant to start because I can’t seem to get myself to hydrate enough on a daily basis.
I just start working and forget. I don’t want to drink clay water and get stopped up. But I look forward to getting it together and starting this
habit. After these emails I also never tried the H202—if there’s a forum thread about that I’d like to see it.

I have a question for you. Re Covid, I got the first Pfizer shot and getting the second on March 1. I don’t normally do shots, no flu, nothing like that,

But this, I went for it. Got fearful and I see my 85 yr old mom every week. My question is: should I or can I do anything to help my body deal with this shot? Should I do a strong, consistent immunity building routine? Should I do chelation after? I’d love your thoughts, because I hear people can feel pretty bad after that 2nd shot and I’d like to make sure I’m optimum.

I chose Pfizer because I read it had 70mg less vax than Moderna but was the same efficacy. I figured, same result, less junk.

As always, I appreciate so much your willingness to share what you have learned.


It's great to hear from you, I'm glad that everyone is ok!

...you could even just add a DASH of clay to 1-5 gallons of water.  It does make a difference:


Although we are still very much operating in the unknown, I'm actually pretty excited about the "new" technology behind the Pfizer vaccine...

From my perspective, this technology is nothing more than a cell programming tool (yes, the idea can be just as dangerous as beneficial).  There is no purposeful antigen like mercury or aluminum.  What it is a liposomal formulation that is designed to enter a cell and program the RNA directly.  The program teaches the RNA how to turn that particular cell into a molecule making factory/machine... in this case, COVID antibodies.  I'm NOT an expert, however!

Some people comment that it does include a molecule that **can** act as an antigen, but they don't understand the proper context.  It's the same chemical used in most soft drinks.  It can produce a rare reaction, that is almost always mild.  It is not in the vaccine in order to act as an antigen; the vaccine efficacy doesn't rely upon this effect.

I still remain completely open-minded about potential problems, and I'm watching things as carefully as I can... It's tough to find a "proper" skeptic... one who is not skewed by cognitive dissonance OR resonance!

I DON'T agree with things like the flu shot, which often works not quite as good as a placebo, especially for the elderly.  The risk, in my mind, doesn't out way the benefit, especially since the "regular" flu is very treatable.

This newer vaccine technology, because it does not directly change DNA, when that cell dies, the programming dies with it.

Can this process "go wrong".  Certainly it is possible, and it has happened to one person so far that I am aware of.  Other than that, if you don't have an allergic reaction the same day, as far as we know, you are clear.

Liposomes don't last long in the body, they are very transient, and the body treats them like the best food on the planet if it doesn't contain toxins (breast milk is liposomal).

Keeping immunity strength up, especially in this world, should always be a top priority.  Vitamin D and K2, vitamin C, the basics, good food but most of all, good breathing and proper stress management.

I think I may have found a way to overcome the "constipation" issue... but please understand that in many books, clay is listed as a CURE for constipation.  Constipation with clay use is always a symptom of a problem that is being exteriorized.

The new "discovery" has to do with how the central nervous system regulates and communicates with the body....  it's based on the "polyvagal vagus nerve theory", which is paradigm changing, in my opinion.  The central idea is that if you find a way to reset the entire nervous system (especially cranial nerves and the vagus nerve system), the body will return to proper self-regulation.  You can do a search, the "corrective" exercise are VERY easy and simple to do.  Breathing dysfunction might also be involved!

I'm not sure yet if this can overcome the central problem, which is most often an underactive thyroid.  Time will tell!  Of course, one first must correct diet and water intake...  at least, within reason! (perfection is not required).

For H2O2 and related strategies, see below:



The bottom line, is that if you STOP COVID from replicating, you won't get sick.  As I understand it,  it takes some days for the virus to actually "infect" a cell in the nasal passageway/lungs.  During that time, it is VERY vulnerable.  Viruses are amazing, because they can be SO effective and yet are extremely fragile!

We have not seen the methods outlined in the forum posts fail.  That said, there is no way to know anything for sure, because you'd have to have a test population size in the thousands to really see how any given method truly works.

Keep in mind also that COVID can "infect" the digestive tract, and that COVID is actually GRAM POSITIVE.  We've tested clay extensively with gram positive organisms, and I don't see any reason why hydrated clay wouldn't grab and neutralize COVID on contact... even if it doesn't "kill" it directly.

Maybe someone else out there has different information, or a different perspective to share about the new vaccines.  But to date, the "problem" that I have with it is simply that we are marching into the unknown as far as potential unintended side effects!

Kind Regards,


Forum News & Questions / MOVED: Grit in clay
« on: February 07, 2021, 11:01:41 AM »

[Eytons' Earth answering question via email correspondence]
[in essence, a continuation of this thread: https://www.earthcures.org/forum/index.php/topic,3.0.html


I've been working with the issue of "recovery diets" for a very long time, and of course there is no "one size fits all" solution, especially when it comes to the idea of "healthy" eating habits.

There are a few fundamental points that almost all nutritionists ignore or simply don't know; sometimes I think perhaps that it is too simple!

The first principle of nutrition, is that the body MUST be able to digest everything consumed.  While this sounds like a no-brainer, nearly all "experts" ignore this principle, and instead form elaborate rules and regulations governing eating habits to harness what they imagine to be how the body works.

Most of them are just plain wrong, which has been a real source of frustration for me over the years as I've tried to find and explore "the truth".

The second principle that they ignore, forget, or simply don't know, is that you have to feed the microbiome before you feed yourself.  This becomes very problematic in the modern world, since I would say that 90% of people's microbiome is ill, which means that it is not hospitable to human health and wellness.

Principle number one and rule number two are the primary reasons why people can't get well with diet.

Principle number two also gets complicated by the fact that this 90%, even if they are trying to feed the microbiome properly, are usually poisoning it and themselves.  This happens on several levels.  The first is digestive failure, or what you might want to call "pre"-digestive system failure.  What happens in the saliva and in the stomach.

Food that cannot be broken down becomes poison. This can be caused by lack of HCL production (often a function of deficiencies, such as minerals and in particular, iodine), lack of enzymes, and/or lack of cellular energy conversion coupled with organ deficiencies such as a low functioning thyroid.

Next, and equally common, is retention toxicity.  Even if primary digestive juices are adequate, many people experience liver retention toxicity, which translates to toxic bile (heavy metals are usually indicated here).  Bile is recirculated over and over again as it travels through the digestive tract.  This results in a very inhospitable bio-terrain for "beneficial" micro-organisms... but provides a great bio-terrain for many pathogenic ones...  the person is literally killing the good bacteria and supporting the pathogenic ones.

All of this eventually culminates into leaky gut syndrome, where the integrity of the colon wall is compromised.  This "compromise" also often includes a layer of mucoid plaque that exists within the colon walls.

I have not found any nutritional diet on the planet that purges mucoid plaque, and I've looked at them all.  Sometimes, someone might accidentally support their body in a way to create the right conditions to allow that purging and true colon wall healing... but it is certainly not by a "principle" of diet, because it won't be repeatable with any meaningful percentage of people.  It is usually just a "happy accident" or simply the mind/body connection working at a different level for healing.

Therefore, because of this, nobody using a diet to heal is actually transforming their bio-terrain completely.   Therefore, results are always going to be spotty, temporary, or illusory.  People end up doing massive amounts of very hard work on themselves, and getting a return that is often deeply depressing...  even though DOING that work is creating discipline which will always be very valuable.

I've worked with detox for a few decades, without that final key.  When I started experiments on myself, I did not think I would get any results.  Very few people on the planet have detoxed (but to be fair, I've done my share of modern world 'toxing" as well)  like I have.  Therefore, I was pleasantly surprised when I did a mucoid plaque cleanse that I actually DID have a purge, at about week three, and it completely resulting in the transformation of my bio-terrain, which changed everything.  It changed my taste, and it completely eliminated any and all cravings.

People with chronic conditions and illness have to put all of this together, and have to put it together in the order that is right for them.

My experience with nutrition is that extreme dietary philosophies, ideologies, and practices can be very useful for the short term, but rarely serve a person over the long term.  To complicate this, it can easily take ten years for dietary issues to show up as actual symptoms, by which time the damage has been done (but of course, is often "repairable).

This is why I have twenty five years of dietary research, but I still can't tell someone exactly how to eat.  Some people actually need to be on what I call the divorced cave man diet... what a "man" would do that loved hunting, but didn't particularly care that much for gathering, and certainly had no farming skills.

Other people (perhaps like yourself), may need the exact opposite for a period of time.

My long winded point here is that these extremes are usually only viable temporarily.

The great news is:  If a person does an elimination diet, a full detox and digestive system recovery program, one can then teach the body and the mind that the body's innate intelligence can once again be trusted.  One need not rely so heavily upon intellectualizations, no matter how well thought  out or convincing they may be.

Zeolite is some amazing stuff, but there is no company that I'm aware of, at least in the United States, that really represents their product honestly.  I use the word "honestly"  instead of "accurately", because-- while there are certainly issues with marketing companies and their accuracy-- you can be accurate and still not honest.

I would say that the exception is us, as I refuse to publicly write that much about zeolite, other than its fundamental properties.  I really like to have 10 to 20 years of experience with something new, especially if it falls in the realm of "alternative" rather than natural medicine.  Just because something is found in nature, doesn't mean it is natural medicine!

I do talk about zeolite quite a bit in this "Eytons' Earth Discussions" forum, but most of my focus in this aspect has to do with educating our customers about the differences between different colloids.  Here I'd like to expound upon zeolite itself, as far as consumer products available in the world, as used for health and healing.

There are four distinct, and quite different, classifications of "zeolite" (clinoptilolite).  They all share the same general properties, but they all work very differently in the body.

The first one is the most expensive and the biggest rip off, as far as I'm concerned.  It is usually called "liquid zeolite", which is a misnomer, because all zeolite is rock, and it is non water-soluble.  My regular readers know just how much I love it when marketing companies name their products impossibly!  Zeolite always is, always was, and always will be a non-water soluble colloid.  Even more than that, it is simply ROCK.  So, in other words, they call their product liquid rock.

In all of these types of products, there is only a minute amount of actual zeolite.  When it first came out,  after examining the product with a laser to check its Tyndall effect, I drank a six month supply in one sitting, and it did nothing (except rob my pocket book, but I wrote it off as a business expense as I was testing a potential product for our business).

This type of product is-- or so it seems-- actually, effective... but not for the reasons people think.  There appears to be a homeopathic response, as well as an elevated placebo effect.  Now, I'm all for utilizing the placebo effect, and I'm all for effective homeopathic remedies, but they don't work in the same way.

I've seen a few separate and independent lab studies that show that these liquid zeolites don't actually pull metals out of the body...  so, when they are effective, it is the body's response doing the work.  This is pretty easy look at, from an analytical perspective.  So, if you use this type of product, and it works, that's great!  If you recommend it to others for any serious condition, you are putting their health at risk, because homeopathics and placebo effects are very individual, not universal.

Let's be clear.  If a person has an MRSA (staph) infection due to a cut on the finger, 100% of the time our green desert clay, when used in hydrated clay gel/magma form, will eliminate the infection, and in very short order.  We have done time kill comparison studies in vitro lab experiments to prove it, and we've done many personal experiments, over and over across the years, as well.  It has even worked with diabete heart transplant patients on powerful immune system suppressing drugs. 

That's science.  We know the exact method of actions.  You don't have to want it to happen, or believe it to happen, and you can even strongly disbelieve it will happen;  it will still work.  It is not subject to the nacebo effect, either (natural clays are part of the animal kingdoms innate instinct, which over-rides the potential for psychological intentions to interfere... it truly does seem that the body "knows", right down to the cellular level).

Ok, the next type of zeolite, is the one which most of the world's most impressive studies have been done with:  Fully micronized zeolite.  This type of zeolite used to be widely available in North America until (of course) the FDA stepped in and pulled it all off of the shelves.  I have about five pounds saved from the last run we had, so that I can compare it to any other emerging products in the future.

The FDA stepped in, and stated that fully micronizing zeolite would "probably" liberate too much lead (zeolites are loaded with non-bioactive, non-bioavailable lead) from the zeolite crystalline structures.  They set  VERY low microgram dosage levels for human consumption... so, only the liquid zeolites can comply, since there is hardly any zeolite in any of them.

These amazing fully micronized colloidal particles are still "cage" shaped.  This has advantages and disadvantages, but is very important the smaller the particle sizing.  The "best" stuff is marketed under a process called TMAZ... the stuff you want to COMPLEMENT our product, is a product with particles sized from 0.1 - 1 micron in diameter. TMAZ is a PROCESS, so the particle size can any size, although it a wasteto use TMAZ to produce particles 10 microns and above.

These are the particles that the body pretty much treats as water; that's how tiny they are (although they are still quite LARGE from a nano-particle perspective!). They can enter and detox cells.  Because of the shape, they do not have cytotoxicity issues, as long as they are micronized properly (hence the TMAZ process).  They have two to four times the sorption power of other colloids/clays used for detox.

However, many people believe that these particles are too small to detox what I am currently calling mid-range toxic elements/compounds:
 Heavy metals and other positively charged particles too big to enter cells, but can still cause havoc in organs, soft tissues, and of course at and on the outer edge of cells.  This IS conjecture.  I've inquired as to the exact science, corresponding with some of the greatest minds in related fields, and no one is absolutely certain that this is the case, but it makes the most sense, given the differences in how people respond to use.

So, to be clear, these don't seem to do a great job at acting at the ORGAN level, or even really at the FLUID level.  I view them as specifically for "cellular" use.  There are CERTAINLY far superior things to use for blood, fluid, and organs.

Next, is what we currently love to use and carry in our wholesale store.  It is about "half" micronized zeolite. It is actually very well produced, and has "bell curve" particle sizing, with the top of the bell curve at about 10 microns (so, 10 microns would be the average particle size).  In the end, this translates to about half the particles small enough to enter the blood stream, and half that work through the digestive system.
As far a digestive system work goes, they at PHYSICALLY (chemically/molecularly) very similar to bentonites (smectites) and illites (mica)... but without the "healing" aspect.  The body has an innate awareness and intelligence when it comes to volcanic-origin ash type earths, but not zeolite, as zeolite is a rock.  There are quite a few things that zeolite doesn't do which healing clays do extremely well.

It should be noted that Indigenous cultures around the world have been using these "regular" healing earths long enough for them to become part of the human instinct.  The animals, same.  To date, we haven't found any animals chomping on actual rocks, and if they did, the particle size would be too large to be "cellularly" or biologically interesting to living systems. 

This isn't said to belittle zeolite, it's just an observation that zeolite has advantages and limitations.  By knowing what they are, you can develop the most effective protocols.

The final type that is used for human health is standard milled zeolite.  The best stuff is about 400 mesh (which limits the particle size to about 40 microns), but 325 will do (325 is actually larger than 400 mesh).  This type of zeolite works to detox the digestive tract; the particle are way too large to be biologically significant for any other function.

The benefit is that zeolite is "water rejecting" (I use to call it "water-hating", but, while accurate, the word hate is a bit too harsh!), so it is less likely to reveal/exteriorize constipation issues.  One should still drink plenty of water when using it, constipation can still happen, especially with those who are dehydrated or have thyroid issues (hypothyroidism).

The limitation is that it does not form charge layers, and so it has a very weak collective electromagnetic field... BUT, that "character" isn't needed to detox the digestive tract, anyway.  Again, micronized zeolite has a CEC rating of 2-4 times more than any other "detox" mineral/clay, so it has an amazing sorption capabilities. 

I had to find a specialized lab to do testing, all of the labs in the US wanted to prepare the samples incorrectly.  I found a lab in Canada where the scientists were familiar with the nature of colloids, so I tested a wide range of the colloids that we enjoy using.

Since it rejects water, it doesn't need to be "fully hydrated" to work, there simply must be water/fluid present. 

Here's just one  practical example of the differences being important:

One user had too great of a detox effect at the liver for standard healing clays; while this is very rare, it does happen.  So she tried using a "half" micronized zeolite, which doesn't do all that much for liver cleansing (compared to smectite with its "wafer" thin and flat particles) because of the shape of the particle.  However, the kidney reaction she experienced put her in bed.  That's two checks:  liver toxicity and kidney toxicity, no doubt resulting in the genetic down-regulation of Phase I - Phase II detox.  A complex, and often "catch 22" situation.

So, she switched to milled zeolite, and this worked perfectly. This allowed her to begin to detox the digestive tract without causing liver/kidney detox reactions.  The operative idea is to get as much work done where you can, in this case the digestive tract, and then SLOWLY expand.  A wise course of action would then to start to put TINY amounts of the "half" micronized zeolite into the mix, and proceed from there.

If I had my choice of product to use, it would be our micronized zeolite with the average particle size of 10 microns, mixed with 10-25% of European TMAZ zeolite sized between 0.1 - 3 microns in diameter.  If I had to choose between TMAZ 0.1 - 3 microns, and ours with a very wide range of particle sizes, I would choose ours.  There are other substances that can be useful for cellular detox... EXCEPT in rare situations, well a cellular effect may be absolutely critical.

The big issue with toxicity at these levels (such as the example, which is more common than one might think)...  is that things like ALA, EDTA, chlorella, etc... things that work at the level of Phase 1 - 2 detoxification... can cause a catastrophic detox reaction that can last, 3, 6, even 9 months of serious issues.

When people even have a smidgen of this type of detox reaction, they become very unwilling to try detox again.  They would often stay in their current, sometimes completely disabled condition, than risk another reaction like they experienced.  That is saying a LOT!

I've correpsponded with a few people that could only take some smectite clay (calcium bentonite), and place a glob of gel on the roof of their mouth, and then would spend 4, 6, even eight hours a day in a clay bath... with MCT and environmental toxicity reactions so serious that the only time they felt sane and "regular" was while they were in the clay bath.

These types of individuals swear that they can feel the clay gel pulling at the metals in their head/brain.  Later, they spit out the clay without ingesting it.  For individuals this ill,  the most "effective" detox agent that they can tolerate internally is water... anything else just sends them off of a cliff.  In some cases, milled zeolite may be a viable option.

It would be nice if we could find one "super mineral" that does everything.  It is just not possible.  You might find one that does everything YOU need it to do, however!  That said, you don't have to limit yourself to one colloid.

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This is the 4th forum I've run since the internet was born.

The first one was extremely popular, but it was old technology.  It was almost a full time job fighting off spammers, who always salivate over forums that rank well in Google.

I kept up with it, but when Russian hackers targeted it, and kept finding exploits to hide their content on my site, I finally gave in and threw in the towel.

Since that time, with each new forum, I get a bit smarter and bit more capable.

You should all know that I love it when you guys spam this forum.  I know exactly how long it takes to set up an account, and then make a new post.

You should know that with this forum, it takes me less than five seconds to delete ALL of your posts, your replies, and your account.  It is almost effortless.

This isn't a challenge to the actual real hackers out there.  Give me a break, I cannot afford to run a fully secure server at this time.  But, I know how to, if I had the funds available, so any triumph that you might enjoy will actually be quite empty.  No need to attack the forum software itself, either, please note that it is open source and completely free; it is community supported.

Thank you! :)

(this discussion edited and re-posted from our "Clay Disciples" Facebook Group)
I got distracted the other day when cooking dinner in an oven set at about 425 F.

I thought I had a pot holder covering my fingers. Apparently, I didn't.  I was distracted enough that I used the wrong hand.

I grabbed at the grill, thinking my hand was positioned properly; I was still looking away, distracted. Apparently, it wasn't positioned properly.

I was so distracted, I didn't notice that I grabbed the hot grill.  I  missed it completely with my palm, but hooked it with four of my fingers. I didn't even notice THAT until I heard sizzling.

I knew this was going to be a third degree burn. Normally, I would head for my clay. However, instead I wanted to try an experiment. I had a spray bottle of silver sitting on the counter, almost within reach of the oven. Within a few seconds of being burned, I was spraying my fingers with EIS/silver; standard stuff, a hydrosol with about 10 PPM EIS.

I elected to simply not use clay at all. I wanted to do the silver experiment to reproduce a treatment I had experienced before.   I also wanted to be able to use my hand for the rest of the evening. With clay gel covering my fingers, that would have been a no-go.

I already know how great hydrated clay is for burns, even 4th degree burns where the tissue is past recovery, charred dead. I had been wondering if silver would be any better, in very specific situations.

I did not let my fingers dry, I just kept spraying my fingers about every four minutes or so, for about 30 minutes.

My fingers hurt terribly. Check one: With clay, the pain often goes away, usually quickly. With the silver, it did not.

However, I noticed that there was zero inflammation response, and zero cell production around the burn.

This was something I looked at carefully. Usually, macrophages send cell signals that cause a whole host of tissue changes... many of those "changes" cause as much harm as good; although it is all part of the natural healing process.

In this case, by ten minutes, the redness was gone. There was only a slight discoloration.

After an hour, the only way you could tell there was an issue was the fact that the fingerprints on the tips of my fingers were burned off.

The fingers continued to hurt on and off for the rest of the night.

By morning, I could barely tell they had been burned at all, and I could only tell because I knew exactly where to look.

Clay usually REDUCES swelling, redness and tissue damage. The best thing, is that it removes the pain!  But it can't quite do what silver can do in this situation.

Now, I do usually spray silver on an area before treating it with clay.

If it is a cut that is profusely  bleeding, I spray silver on it for a bit, add cayenne powder to stop the bleeding, and then put a clay poultice on to finish up.  It is an excellent treatment strategy.

Now, it's pretty clear that there are situations where I might wait a bit before using clay, and continue with the silver instead.... but ONLY when all damage it topical. Silver can't penetrate deeply into wounds without electrical current... clay has no such barrier to its efficacy, in many cases.


Sounds like good reason to keep clay hydrated with EIS on hands.


Yes, I do often hydrate clay with about 50% EIS.

However, I'm not yet sure what the exact effect will be. The type of silver that is effective against tissue damage (as proven by Dr. Bart Flick, MD of Silverlon, as well as Dr. Robert O. Becker, MD) is silver ions.

Silver ions have a POSITIVE charge. Clay Particles have a NEGATIVE charge.

Here is what I think happens:

You hydrate your clay with silver. The silver ion comes in contact with a hydrated clay particle. Silver will be more reactive than many other (but of course not all) types of ions (anions) that clay will currently have sorpted (is holding). So, let's say that the clay particle is currently holding, via sorption (electrical attraction), a potassium anion.

The clay particle will swap out the potassium (releasing it), and grab the silver ion, with its properties completely intact.

The silver ion is now buffered, and will not have any affect in the outer environment, until the clay particle comes in contact with something else even more reactive.

We had the opportunity to do comparative studies between (a SILVER, b) CLAY, and c) SILVER AND CLAY, against MRSA bacteria (antibiotic resistant staph).

Here is what we learned:

SILVER was the most effective, because it reacted QUICKLY. Oligodynamic silver (as apposed to silver compounds, which do NOT work like this, even at 500 to 1000 PPM).

The CLAY/SILVER formulation was EQUALLY effective, it just took longer to kill the MRSA.

CLAY alone worked, but not as well as either the silver alone, or the silver and clay together.

Some would read this study and think that this means that silver is superior. But, IT DOES NOT.  Silver is limited severely by barriers that clay is not.

Silver won't reach through dermal layers at all, nor will it have any effect whatsoever on the underlying lymph system, or organs.  It's effect is strickly electro-chemical; directly physical. 

Silver is limited by electromagnetic fields and charges. It is easy to repel silver with either a neutralizing or a "buffering" charge.
It might seem like clay has this limitation, but not usually. If clay "meets" something with a like negative charge, whereas one clay particle will be repelled, clay with hydrated charge layers has a cumulative effect, and you can create a field which literally overpowers any adjacent fields.

You can clearly see this with scar tissue, and I believe, some types of tumors. You simply have to use more hydrated clay gel, and thus create a stronger field.

I've seen clay cure tumors, and I think it does this primarily by turning the lights back on for the immune system (along with a detox effect). It creates a field charge that literally collapses the tumor's, and the immune system all of the sudden knows that the tumor is there, and mounts a defense (if it is healthy enough to do so).

This is one reason why I think that some tumors respond so quickly and well to tumors, while clay has zero effect on others.... it has more to do with the state of the body and its metabolism and/or toxicity levels than anything else.

Of course, in this writing there is a lot of great "hard" science, but also quite a bit speculation on my part... I think of it as practical, informed speculation based on theory, observation, and experience/experimentation over a very long period of time.

I have my own pretty profound cancer treatment theories, but again, all speculation; get even a little bit wrong and it can be life ending.

SO, back to the original thought, when seconds count, I believe that silver is superior, at least at first! But only when the silver ions have direct access to the cells that need the "help"!

It is ****possible*** that you can ramp up the PPM so that you wash clay with silver, and take up as many anion spots as possible, and then make sure that there are plenty of silver ions left over... AND that the clay is in a form that I call SUPER-HYDRATED, where there is always a very thin layer of water molecules, almost like a sheath, covering, and on the outside of the clay charge layers.

This would be HIGHLY, HIGHLY structured "4th Phase" water with a field barrier to prevent the water from over-hydrating the clay and turning it from its gel form, with highly organized and interconnected charge layers, to "aqueous" clay water, where the single molecules of clay no longer combine with other molecules of clay to form the amazing field characteristics that clay has when properly hydrated.

In THIS case, the clay might be equal to silver, if that "sheath" or water layer on the outside of the clay gel is rich with positively charged silver ions.

This "super-hydration" state is only possible with clays like our green desert calcium bentonite/montmorillonite, something like Redmond clay (not Pascalite or Terramin), something like pure sodium bentonite, but not Pyro clay, or Illite.

While I think it is very interesting, there are a lot of "ifs" there, LOL.... Practically, it is a bit easier to keep spraying on silver for 20 minutes are so, and THEN donning a clay poultice if needed!

We strongly recommend individuals supplement with Vitamin D3 and K2 as a preventative measure, both for the general flu and especially to help protect against infection from Sars-CoV-2.

I've long believed that adequate levels of vitamin D in the body protect against acute viral infections.  However, I have come across individuals who have supplemented with D, and yet have still come down with pretty severe case of the flu.  What gives?  Is the information wrong, or are there more elements and variables at play?

I used to believe that supplementing with a good D/K product was enough, without giving it much thought.  It turns out, though, that some people-- maybe even a lot of people-- might need to take as much as 10,000 units daily (temporarily!) in order to reach ideal levels of Vitamin D (and cofactors) in the body. 

"Traditionally", most people only supplement with 1-2K units... So, it's no wonder that some people might still be at greater risk for getting ill.

I personally thought my 1,000 units of D, along with at least 30 minutes out in the Las Vegas sun, would do the trick.  It wasn't until I got tested that I realized my levels were still far too low!  But, that is the beauty of real functional medicine.  You can test to get an accurate baseline.

Therefore, it is strongly advisable that individuals get tested to determine how much Vitamin D to supplement with in order to achieve "levels" between 50 ug/ml and 60 ug/ml, while maintaining levels below 80 ug/ml.  Home testing kits are available.

Please review the following charts, provided by "Grassroots Health", which document the conclusions of a study done in Asia, which was compiled from studying data taken from three different hospitals.  All test subjects had their vitamin D levels tested having been admitted to the hospital, with varying degrees of severity of the COVID-19 infection:

As this limited, but statistically significant data shows, nearly all of those with higher levels of vitamin D generally had far less severe cases of the illness.

The second chart (below)  shows that only 13% of the individuals tested (all with COVID-19) had the recommended levels of Vitamin D (greater than 40 ng/ml).  This is a serious problem!

So, now, how to supplement?

Dr. Mercola, for example, has a suitable supplement, with 5,000 IU of Vitamins D3 & 180 mcg of K2.  Some people might need one capsule, others may TEMPORARILY need to two.  Other supplements out there dose with 1,000 or 2,000 units.

The best action?  Don't guess, test.  Home test kits (finger prick blood test) cost around $80-100.  We don't currently know enough about how these tests are conducted to have an educated opinion on what company would be the best choice.  Luckily, it's not rocket science, just choose a reputable company/lab, or check with your doctor!

If you have to guess to start with, you could start with one 5,000 unit dose per day for a period of time, and then do a home test to check your levels. 

DO NOT PANIC DOSE with Vitamin D, overdosing can cause kidney failure. 

If Dr. Mercola's product of 5,000 units of D (single daily dose) turned out to be an actual serious PROBLEM due to the high dosage level, we probably would have heard about it by now.

Some individuals can't seem to believe that something as simple as Vitamin D can have such a big impact on health.  I understand!  Devil's advocates like to point out that this is just one single study.  That is true!

Therefore, on the science reference page ( https://www.earthcures.org/forum/index.php/topic,175.0.html ), we've added an abundance of research material (influenza) which lends credence to the idea of using Vitamin D in a preventative manner for respiratory viral infections.  These studies, some of them massive in scope, were of course NOT done with COVID-19, but with influenza and pneumonia.

The truth is, nobody knows exactly what is going to work with this new coronavirus.  However, we have a whole human history dealing with respiratory virii, both pandemic outbreaks and "regular" seasonal "flus".

See the page below which outlines all of the pages we have exploring COVID-19:


Welcome to Part 2 of our "Rumor Mill" project.  Don't miss Part 1.  Just because it is a "rumor" doesn't make it not true!  We don't include it if we don't feel it has significant implications!

Single-blind, controlled study done in China shows statistically significant improvement in patient outcome (less mortality) when critical care level patients added alpha lipoic acid to the treatment program.

This is true, a pre-peer review paper has been released by the team of researching medical doctors who put this study together.


For people who want to study an extensive and well thought out "plant based" (only) treatment regime for COVID-19, I highly recommend studying the work done by Stephen Harold Buhner.  It is excellent and very comprehensive:


What it Means

"Result: Nine patients were randomized to placebo group and 8 patients were randomized to ALA group."

I could never do this kind of research (excluding the control group), although I do appreciate the value that it brings!

The ~37% reduction in mortality may at first seem "lack luster", but we have to ask the question, "what if intervention had occurred PRIOR to the critical care level of this disease?  Could it have changed the trajectory of the entire illness?  How protective would the ALA have been?  There is no easy answer to such questions!

OR, perhaps the numbers are misleading, as one commenter pointed out that ***three*** patients in the ALA group were later given ventilator care, and that may have skewed the numbers.  Probably not, because we can assume that the control group was given comparable treatment when necessary!

The great thing is:  ALA is a very valuable supplement anyway. 

FYI:  ALA is a key ingredient in our advanced detoxification protocol (not published publicly for safety considerations):

(Liposomal Glutathione, liposomal ALA, liposomal vitamin C) + NAC + (the sodium version of EDTA) + systemic enzyme therapy + ozone steam or full spectrum infrared sauna + red light therapy (add clay baths to help finish the cleanup work)....  definitely NOT safe for people unless they've done a full elimination diet and then a permanent diet change, a 90 day digestive system detox, plus a 60 basic heavy metal cleanse first!

Warrington Hospital in Cheshire (UK) avoids the use of ventilators in favor of modified "sleep apnea" machines.

Doctors, saying they learned from the mistakes of their colleagues in Italy, start the use of the modified sleep apnea CPAC machines as respiratory failure intervention "early on" in order to try to avoid ventilator use, often times immediately upon admitting patients with respiratory issues.

What it Means

Doctors report much faster recovery times with no need for intubation and the risk associated with forced respiration via ventilators.

Original story:  https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-hospital-cuts-covid-19-death-rates-with-black-boxes-for-sleep-disorder-11977789

A recent study shows that taking adequate amounts of potassium reduces the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.

A study of 125 patients in a China showed that almost all COVID-19 sufferers experienced Hypokalemia, which is low levels of potassium ions in the blood stream.

What it Means

In our "preventative" concept protocol, we already recommend taking a balanced macro mineral supplement, as well as a trace mineral supplement.  Unlike some minerals, potassium is pretty safe to use by itself, although it is usually recommended to take a balanced macro mineral supplement with includes calcium, magnesium and potassium.   Astute researchers, however, may look up how to use potassium hydroxide as a water additive to raise blood serum levels quickly.  Doing this method must be done with extreme care.  Potassium hydroxide (often available USP at 50% in water) is very corrosive and dangerous to use without proper dilution.

New clinical study conducted by Oxford University shows that a low dose steroid therapy reduces COVID-19 deaths by 30% (those having been placed on ventilators), by preventing a cytokine storm from occurring:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281 - The drug, Dexamethasone, is very affordable and widely available.

Utilizing grain alcohol and EIS to Cure COVID-19

This is an important discovery, something we have been talking about for a long time.  For the toughest lung infections, the "old timer's" would use grain alcohol to quickly resolve any flem and congestion issues.  This is well known to be a very effective method.

What the old timer's would use, is (very specifically) RUM.  They would soak a sponge, and huff the vapors.  This works very, very quickly to resolve even the worst cases of congestion/fluid build up.

One individual's sister was slick with COVID-19 for a couple of months.  The aggressive use of EIS/CS in a nebulizer was not resolving the issue (but probably still preventing the illness from progressing to late stage).

The individual did a different treatment protocol, using pure vodka mixed with colloidal silver, and sipping on it over a period of one hour.  She did this three times a day:

The formula was 50 ml CS mixed with (25%) 12.5 ml of 40 % alcohol in a glass. She sipped every 5 minutes, keeping it under the tongue 2-3 minutes, until the glass was empty in about one hour. She did that 3 times a day. And some extra pure CS in between. And she continued for safety's sake with one glass a day another 5 days after she became well.

We currently believe that using rum, and NOT vodka, and mixing it with EIS/CS, and using it in a nebulizer would be far more effective much quicker.  The problem is, nobody knows the best concentration to use, or how much is required.  IT IS EASY TO GET ALCOHOL POISONING by nebulizing too much grain alcohol!  We can't stress that enough!

So, perhaps, using the oral administration route, was a wise decision!

The Role of Enzymes in Developing Strategies to Treat COVID-19

New, novel research has been focusing on the human proteins affected by the virus, and enzymes that the virus exploits.  This has resulted in some excellent end research, including the use of existing drugs to successfully address the illness:


This research article also delves deeper into how the virus operates in the human body, at the cellular level.

'Theoretical' data study done in vitro on SARS-Cov-2 demonstrates that turmeric, neem, ashwagandha and black pepper should be effective at protecting the body from COVID-19

Using a fascinating data-based approach, this peer reviewed study done in India, used a wide database of herbs to isolate those Ayurvedic herbs that should be the most effective against the virus.
Read more at:

Please refer to this page for links and important information regarding our information on respiratory viral infections and COVID-19.

[This page last updated on 5/06/20:  Los Alamos study added to the "pneumonia" page]

Note that all of the links below contain important information not located elsewhere.  Please review all of the information.

Please note that we do not provide actual recommendations, these are all just conceptual protocol ideas that researchers are exploring based on available and emerging independent research.  All of this is provided for research purposes only:

For example, the "Rumor Mill" post is important because it includes actionable information from other researchers.  An example would be either using H2O2 in a nebulizer, or using copper ascorbate to treat COVID-19 at symptom onset.  This information is not in our concept protocol pages, because we don't have any real research experience, can't predict side effects/detox reactions, and can't know exact dosing details.  However, just because we don't list it as a primary consideration, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be!

Another example is the scientific research page which provides supporting research.  There is a ton of valuable information presented by researchers if you have the time to click on the links and read the material!

We will try to update this page when anything changes, and note the "edit" date below, so that one does not have to continue to view these "living documents" over and over again!

Our main concept protocol (2 pages) for preventation and treatment:

Main Prevention and Main Treatment Concept Protocols



What NOT to do, Why NOT, and WHAT to do instead:


This thread actually has some good, actionable information.

Scientific References for the substances/therapies suggested: [Updated on 4/27/2020]


Don't miss this section.  For example, you can learn that a study done on virii suggests that silver ions act best within a cell to prevent viral cell replication, which silver nano particles work best extracellularly (linked study).

Taking care of the sinuses, throat, ears, and lungs, critical ideas for both prevention and treatment:


Specific page on Vitamin C therapy (we can't stress how important vitamin C is with infections, especially virii):


Note that I've been contacted by individuals stating that some cannot tolerate 3-5 grams of ascorbic acid, and so they are not using it.

Such individuals should read about the studies suggesting liposomal vitamin C may even be superior to IV therapy... it is certainly more tolerable than any form of water soluble C.  Anyone with some basic, rudimentary research and equipment can transform water soluble ascorbic acid into fat soluble "liposomal" vitamin C, which will, among other things, help prevent the digestive system irritation common with ascorbic acid.

An important topic, COVID-19 specialist MD at a New York City Hospital notices that COVID-19 is ***not**** presenting with regular pneumonia as all of the doctors and medical staff have been told; furthermore, the use of a ventilator use be hurting much more than it is helping (even though there DOES come a time where there is no choice).

I've even spoken to nurses in California who have changed their treatment protocol, based on this information, to using a ventilator as a last resort.

Latest update includes more hard data on the mutation of Sars-CoV-2:

New York City MD:  Not Pneumonia, Oxygen Starvation (the hemoglobin link) [Updated 5/06/2020]:

The most recent updates are very important, as there are conflicting assumptions as to the pathology of COVID-19 and what it means.  Is it the destruction of hemoglobin causing oxygen starvation, or the fluid/mucus, inflammation and/or scar tissue (fibrotic tissue).  Why is this becoming a blood-attacking and blood-vessel attacking illness, and what does THAT mean?  Why aren't CPAPs being used when they are so amazingly effective and can be used much earlier with greater recovery rates?

This post is very important, either way, the implications are serious!


The Rumor Mill [Updated 4/17/20]


This is an important thread, because it includes therapy suggestions that are NOT included in the main thread, for many reasons... BUT, some of them might be WELL worth taking a look!   For example, nebulizing 3% H2O2 at symptom onset may just arrest the illness.

The Rumor Mill - Part 2 [updated 4/24/20]


Both part 1 and part 2 are extremely important for any independent researcher.  Just because it is-- to us-- a "rumor" doesn't make it not true or valuable information!

Vitamin D Levels - Supplementing - COVID-19 Vitamin D Level Study

We've always recommended supplementing with Vitamin D to help protect against the flu and COVID-19.  This is our latest page, exploring the impact that Vitamin D levels have on the severity of COVID-19, and how to determine how much to supplement with:


PLEASE NOTE: [Modified last on 5/09/2020]  This post/thread is about what we are hearing from others.  We do not recommend anyone do anything here, nor do we advise that you take the information as real or at face value.  This is here, because I assume many people, like myself, want to hear what is going on so that I can draw my own conclusions.  I want access to the creativity and raw information being discovered and I want to hear about all of the ideas being explored, in an uncensored manner.  I don't need a baby sitter! I believe that there is ALWAYS value in exploring ideas, even if the ideas don't pan out.;)

HOWEVER, and IN FACT, if the information is not part of our own primary concept protocols or information about coronavirus (see the main topic threads), then there is probably a good reason for it!

Copper is a Cure for COVID-19

We've been hearing from more than one outlet that copper formulations are turning out to be very effective with COVID-19.  Copper works similarly to silver.  That said, copper can be very problematic to dose due to current bio-burden levels, issues of toxicity, and how excess copper effects the absorption of other minerals (like zinc).

That said, we have accounts of copper ascorbate (must make it yourself) halting infections very rapidly, when used orally...  Often used in conjunction with "standard" vitamin C formulations.

We have also heard of a case of late stage COVID-19 halted in its tracks with a "colloidal copper", which was, in actually, mostly an EIC/Copper solution (ions) made via electrolysis.

What Does it Mean?

It means that these metal ions known to have strong antimicrobial properties show great promise.

There is even a case to made about using both together:


Furthermore, there is a case to be made for using small amounts of copper orally (1 tsp - 1 tbs), in conjunction with using EIS/Silver formulations with a nebulizer.

However, there is no way for anyone at this time to tell anyone else what a safe, effective concentration or dose would be.

People are getting "cured", recovering, and getting sick again!

We are hearing this all over the place, both with heavy hitting "natural" remedies, and reports from Wuhan (for example).

What Does it Mean?

This most likely means that treatment interventions are working to help this disease, but the immune system is not producing enough antibodies before symptoms subside.

It is QUITE possible that the virus still exists, replicating out of the "sight" of the immune system...  for example, in lesions existing in the lungs, or even in the nasal passageways.  We are hearing that it can take up to five days for a virus particle to penetrate a cell membrane in order to reproduce.

This also means that even when a person starts to feel better, they should still keep up with preventative measures and treatments, and pay careful attention going forward, for at least a few weeks, maybe longer.

Symptoms that are recurring, signaling a renewed infection?  Loss off taste, loss of smell, fever, sore throat and cough.  Any combination thereof.

The idea is to keep diligent.  The idea is that eventually the body will produce enough antibodies so that the immune system can protect itself.

Anti-Malaria Drugs (chloroquine class) are working great!  They aren't working at all!  They aren't working and causing terrible side effects! They only work with zinc!  They only work in conjunction with antibiotics!

Reports, clinical studies, and publications are all over the place here.

What Does it Mean?

It is possible that the therapy hasn't been perfected, that there are those out there sabotaging research efforts, that research testing is not being done properly and skewing results... or maybe some strange combination of all of the above.

Bottom line:  There is yet a real and comprehensive, trusted source of information out there regarding drug therapies involving chloroquine.  I would not rely upon this drug therapy to save my life, but I wouldn't discount it either!

COVID-19 Patients, Oxygen Starved, are Being Cured with Nitric Oxide

Massachusetts General Hospital is reporting good results by giving oxygen-starved patients, via inhalation therapy, a drug which boosts nitric oxide levels.  The drug, with a low risk profile, has been used to treat oxygen starved babies in the past.

What Does it Mean?

This is true, but the effectiveness of the therapy still needs to be proven!

Some people now believe that while SARS-CoV-2 attaches to the ACE2 cell receptors in the lungs (and in the gut), that the oxygen starvation is the results of the virus attacking oxygen-carrying hemoglobin as a food source (probably iron).

While this would not alter the treatment ideology of treating the lungs as a primary infection site, it does alter what can be done to help individuals who are experiencing oxygen starvation.

Interested individuals should take this seriously.  Our recommendation of using the "Hot Shot Brain Fog Slayer" juice tonic formulation also improves NOS blood levels (via the medicinal high heat cayenne pepper).

There is also merit to the idea the NOS supplements could be used early on in COVID-19 presentation, including beet root extract and similar NOS-boosting extracts and agents... But THIS information IS indeed RUMOROUS and has not been tried nor tested, to our knowledge.  The best strategy is still not to let COVID-19 progress to the point of serious respiratory distress.

Ivermectin is a widely used anti-parasitic drug that inhibits SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

This is true, although nobody knows if it will work in the body yet.  This drug, however, is very widely used and understood, and exists on the WHO's list of "essential medicines".  The drug is FDA approved, and It is available for horses at most vets.


What Does it Mean?

If it works as well in humans as it does in the test tubes at inhibiting the expression of COVID-19, it might be able to arrest the illness quickly and safely, potentially within 48 hours of administration.  Drugs like this would likely be best effective when used earlier in the presentation of the illness, before a critical amount of actual damage is done to the lungs and the body's hemoglobin supply.

Nebulizing three percent hydrogen peroxide (3% H2O2) will stop the Coronavirus (COVID-19) DEAD in its tracks!

Dr. Mercola, and others, are touting this as a miracle therapy, citing the works of Dr. Thomas Levy, and Dr. Charles Farr.  The idea is to do this immediately upon symptom presentation, and it will prevent the infection from taking hold.

Now, those familiar with my work probably already realize three things: 

1.  I purchase H2O2 in 35% gallon jugs, as well as quart sizes of 12% (for mixing convenience to reach 6%)...

2.  I've been using hydrogen peroxide regularly for all sorts of things for about 15 years, and I love the stuff!  I have a zillion uses for various combinations of silver and H2O2.

3.  I almost NEVER publicly write about it, nor do I suggest people actually do hydrogen peroxide therapy.  Privately, I help people who ***already have the desire to do it*** all of the time.

What I BEG that everyone do right now-- today--- if one is planning on using this as a treatment strategy-- is to nebulize 3% H2O2 now, and watch what happens.  I estimate that about 80% of people are headed for a major freak out.  I've seen the detox reaction of individuals nebulizing .5% concentrations of H2O2 become nearly bed-ridden for a few days.  The toxicity reaction of H2O2 atomizing who knows WHAT garbage presently residing in the lungs is among the worst reactions of any therapy that I've explored.

Even I had a terrible reaction when I first did it about 18 years ago.  At the time, I was a smoker.  I did a MASSIVE daily protocol to protect my lungs while I worked to figure out how to overcome this addictive affliction.  I had a regular doctor even swear that I wasn't a smoker at all.  Today, nobody would even be able to tell that I was ever a smoker.  That took a lot of work, a lot of liver cleansing, a lot of blood cleansing to keep healthy and work to protect the lungs.

Even so, about two minutes after nebulizing a small amount of hydrogen peroxide, my heart started pounding so badly that I collapsed.  My vision disappeared.  In a few short seconds, I thought I was going to be dead.  My vision started to clear even though my heart continued to pound.  Instantly I knew what a fool I'd been!

I was experiencing a nicotine overdose.  I literally sat very still in a silent pose for about 20 minutes.  Finally, my heartbeat began to return to normal.  I was OK!

Boy, did I learn my lesson.  Eventually, I carefully acclimated my lungs to H2O2 therapy.  With subsequent research, I learned that the body can go through THREE very distinct and very severe detox reactions.  1) Cleansing the lungs, 2) then H2O2 concentration starts to build up in the blood stream, and causes a blood detox reaction, and finally 3) High enough concentrations reach the liver to hammer the person with a hard hitting liver detox reaction.

What Does it Mean?

Do you know what is currently built up in your lungs?  Do you live the city?  Do you do regular cardio or breathing exercises to clear your lungs?  No?

YOU NEVER KNOW what kind of a reaction your are going to get the first time enough builds up to cause a detox reaction!

Now, can you imagine someone with lung conditions and diabetes, terrified because they are starting to hallucinate because of the COVID-19 fever, so in a panic, they reach into the medicine cabinet and grab a brown bottle of 3% H2O2, and nebulize like crazy?

H2O2 is an awesome therapy for the sinuses, for the lungs, for general detox via the oral protocols...  But this is something you want to gently acclimate the body to BEFORE you get ill.

Please, you want the body to be WELL acclimated to using H2O2, and you want the pathogens to be taken completely by surprise.  Not the other way around (the body in so much shock and panic that stress hormones cause the immune system to reek havoc on the mind and body).

A hospital in Israel-- for compassionate use-- has been testing stem cell therapy on individuals very ill "ICU" patients.

This appears to be true.  Doctors have been using stem cells derived from placenta, and they report a 0% mortality rate for those treated, in a situation where the expected outcome for each patient was probable death.  They only report moderate improvement (in some patients) in lung function due to the therapy, however.

What Does it Mean?

While this is very interesting, and shows that stem cell therapy research is progressing, it won't likely make a difference in the grand scheme of things, at least not in the short term.  This is not something that could be rolled out to the masses.   We also want to mention it because it could be that SCAMMERS/FRAUDS might try to profit off of this research as they almost always do.  Be wary of internet websites trying to sell stem cell therapy, and even so called "clinics".  There is a massive amount of criminal fraud out there in the stem cell "industry"!

Clay and sea salt baths help COVID-19 patients in recovery.

We're starting to get these reports, however, this is nothing new to us.  While clay baths shouldn't be considered an actual TREATMENT for respiratory infections, once a person is on the road to recovery, we've always received reports that doing a nice warm clay and sea salt bath helps a person feel much better.  In particular, individuals report that clay baths ease the lingering respiratory distress people often experience, sometimes for days, after the acute phase of the illness has passed, and when the body is recovering.

What Does it Mean?

This supports what I've noticed over many years of observation.  Clay doesn't always act as a cure, but it usually makes just about any situation at least a little better.  There is just something special about natural clay, sea minerals, and water!

Dr. Browstein is successfully treating COVID-19 patients using iodine and ozone therapy!

Dr. Brownstein runs a holistic medicine clinic, and HAS been treating COVID-19 patients in the parking lot of his clinic.  He recommends things like Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and uses iodine and ozone to treat even the sickest of his patients.  He currently reports having treated 85 COVID-19 (or suspected cases of COVID-19) successfully.  Since he and his staff can only do ozone therapy at his clinic, he recommends  nebulizing hydrogen peroxide along with iodine.

What Does it Mean?

While we prefer using the iodine, for safety considerations, with the salt pipe, and hence suggest using H2O2 separately... it is becoming very clear that the combination is proving to be very successful:  Bio-oxidative therapy, along with iodine and nutritional support (such as plenty of zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, etc.... see our concept protocol posts).


In fact, ozone therapy is being trialed "officially" in more and more hospitals around the word.  See the following links for further research:

36 patients treated with ozone therapy just prior to having to make the choice to intubate:


The first patient:

"A 49-year-old man who had already required ICU admission was deteriorating on the ward. He had deteriorated to the point that he required oxygen at the highest concentration and yet it was oxygenating his lungs poorly. Intubation and connection to a ventilator was planned, but surprisingly, after the first session of Ozone therapy, the improvement was significant and oxygen requirements could be decreased.

Dr. Alberto Hernández explained that “the improvement after the first session of Ozone treatment was spectacular. We were surprised, his respiratory rate normalised, his oxygen levels increased, and we were able to stop supplying him with as much oxygen since the patient was able to oxygenate himself. To our surprise, when we carried out an analytical control, we observed how Ferritin, an analysis determination that is being used as a prognostic marker in this disease, not only had not followed the upward trend, but had decreased significantly; that decline continued in the following days. This result encouraged us to administer it to other patients who are following the same improvement as our first patient. “"

A study of 18% of COVID-19 deaths in Italy reveals that almost all fatalities were people with pre-existing conditions.

The noteworthy offenders?  Heart disease, hypertension, and diabetes.

Dr. Mercola has a nice write up:  https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/04/13/how-to-defeat-coronavirus.aspx

What Does it Mean?

This is great news, right?  Well, yes and no. 

Many people don't realize it, but at least 60% of the American population lives with chronic disease that may significantly affect their COVID-19 mortality risk factors.  I see so many people "think" that they are perfectly healthy when in reality they are obviously and visually noticeably ten to thirty years in to progressive, chronic degenerative, disease.

Some health care ICU workers are placing patients on their stomach instead of intubating them (using a ventilator). 

Reportedly, this is saving lives by allowing more oxygen saturation in the blood from parts of the lungs that have been under-utilized. 

What Does it Mean?

Prone positioning (and even other physical poses designed by respiratory therapists to improve lung efficiency) may be more effective than ventilators in some situations, and without the risk of lung tissue damage.  Oxygen saturation levels, in some cases, have been reported to go from 85% to 95%.

Cuba approves the use of a homeopathic medication as a viable treatment option for COVID-19 infections.


 PrevengHo® Vir is the medication, and it is used, reportedly, for the ..."prevention of influenza, dengue and other emerging viral infections, recommending its use in conditions of epidemiological risk..."

What Does it Mean?

We see no included data on usage statistics, or whether or not it has been effective!

Dr. William Wong (Website:  "Dr. Wong's Essentials") recommends systemic enzymes for the treatment of COVID-19

Dr. Wong states, in his April 17th "News and Updates:

"While the enzymes can help prevent the virus from attaching to the mitochondrial DNA and replicating we now see the enzymes can also be used during the acute phase of Covid to prevent the formation of lung scar tissue, blood clots and to ameliorate the cytokine storm producing inflammation."

The enzymatic blend that he uses, along with Vitamin C and zinc, includes enterically coated  porcine pancreatin, serrapeptidase, bromelain, and papain.  Specifically, he uses 50,000 units of pancreatin, 50,000 units of amylase, 4,000 units of lipase, 14,000 units (SU) of serrapeptidase, 150 units (GD) of bromelain, and 720,000 units of papain.

Many commercially produced systemic enzyme blends are similar.

What Does it Mean?

We already recommend using Seaprose-S as a vastly superior systemic enzyme for mucus.  There is certainly a case to be made for using a high quality systemic enzyme blend for fibrotic tissue, and there really is no downside to doing so, aside from the expense (avoid using systemic enzymes before surgery, or with medical supervision only if on blood thinning drugs).

For acute conditions, most manufacturers recommend three of "their" capsules, three times daily on an empty stomach.

PLEASE NOTE:  There is now a page two for the "Rumor Mill".  Click on this link:  https://www.earthcures.org/forum/index.php/topic,187.0.html

I think that this video, literally from "ground zero" -- in more ways than one-- is VERY, VERY important.  At the time of this writing, NYC is still the epicenter of COVID-19, with the next wave of "epicenters". following about seven to ten days behind (or so they say).

Pay careful attention to what the ER doctor is describing, and contrast that to the Earthcures recommended treatment strategy.

This doctor lends a great deal of credence to the idea that some strange thick solidifying mucus may be a significant contributing factor to the cause of death, just like the autopsy doctors hinted at in China.

Those ER and ICU doctors and nurses are so out their league it is frightening... even terrifying.

Since the docs from China also indicated that it would take up to 5 days to break down that mucus once patients were admitted to ICU, it is CRITICAL that this be a main priority in order to avoid what would otherwise become the worse ordeal anyone would experience.

UPDATE:  The doctor that shot this video eventually resigned over the hospital's policy on ventilator use.

Here is a "newer" account of this same issue, given to a friend by a nurse working at the same hospital:

The doctor that made the original video questioning how ventilators were being used, eventually resigned over it.

Here is another perspective, I believe from the same hospital.  This is not easy to watch, and I believe that it is 100% authentic:


If all of this isn't enough to convince a person to take care of one's health and act quickly to AVOID going into the hospital, I don't know what would!

On a related "aside", I read a report from a nurse working in ICU in a California hospital who shared that they have completed changed their ventilator use based on the experience reported coming out of New York.

But, sadly, while CPAP and BiPAP both have proven to be HIGHLY effective and MUCH better than ventilators, many hospitals will not use them because they also risk spreading the virus in aerosol form.

Here is another situation where us not being properly prepared is costing people a great deal of pain, misery and even death.  If hospitals would put in place a policy of converting ICU rooms to negative air flow, properly designed rooms with UV air filtration as well, this would not be an issue.

Would this be expensive?  Comparatively, yes.  But, people are not given the choice, and people are not told the truth at all.

They are simply frightened into accepting forced ventilation as their only treatment option.  Would there be situations where a ventilator would HAVE to be used?  Absolutely most certainly... but not in the same manner as they are being used now, and not as frequently.

I believe that most hospital policies prioritize forced ventilation due to all of the initial reports coming out of Italy, where doctors reported that patient outcomes were GREATLY improved if forced ventilation was used for EARLY intervention.  I truly wonder what the disconnect has been between observations in places like Italy, as composed to places like New York intensive care units.

Also, doctors are getting a 100%+ increase in patient blood oxygen levels (those with low levels due to COVID-19) by using warmed and humidified oxygen via high flow O2 therapy using a simple, non-evasive nose cannulas. 

This can even be tried at home with a good quality oxygen concentrator.  Most have optional humidifier feeds in-line. 

If you have a simple oxygen saturation meter (the "cheap" fingertip monitors that measure blood oxygen saturation and current heart rate), you can do this with no risk.  Everyone should be testing their O2 saturation levels anyway, if at all possible.

The operative idea would be to monitor your O2 levels, and then add the O2 if oxygen saturation drops to below ~90% - 94% (you should have a normal baseline established so that you know what YOUR "normal" O2 saturation level is...before any respiratory distress).

This link documents how UChicago Medicine is using this therapy with great success, rather than turning to ventilators:


They are not the only medical professionals trying to opt out of early ventilator intervention.  There are a LOT of medical professionals who aren't willing to simply apply failing protocols that they know will likely lead to a high patient mortality rate.  Some are even testing out breathing ozonated saline solution to address the infection:


Also, to read all of our current material on COVID-19, don't forget to visit our landing page:


Continue reading below for the original post responses that were added as we learned more information.  Most of it was posted prior to the "new" updates shown above.

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