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I am still fascinated by the idea of creating your own "soda springs".  I've been looking at the available methods to create pure CO2.  There is an actual "Dry CO2 Spa" for sale for an outrageous price.

Instead, I'm thinking of trying to combine, perhaps CO2 therapy with steam therapy using a CO2 generator like this one:


I haven't decided for sure, yet.  Any comments are welcome!

You can see a picture of the unit along with a link, posted in this topic/thread:


Please keep in mind that we are not recommending the unit, we don't have enough experience with it as of yet.
Healing with Clay / Re: Splinters: The Most Annoying Things on the Planet
« Last post by Jason on April 27, 2019, 06:09:59 PM »
Hi Jane:

If it were my knuckle, I would take a container that the hand fits in, fill it with clay gel, and have the knuckle/hand submerged in the clay gel for the evening.

I would treat it over night as well, by wrapping the entire finger in a dressing after applying the clay thick.

 Because it has been so long, it might take quite awhile to draw it out.
Red Light LED Therapy / NIR / FIR / Saunas / Re: Red Light, NIR, FIR, IR: Introduction and Resources
« Last post by Sholland on April 27, 2019, 04:10:21 PM »
Would you mind telling us what unit you ended up purchasing?
Healing with Clay / Re: Splinters: The Most Annoying Things on the Planet
« Last post by JANE on April 27, 2019, 03:14:45 PM »
Help welcome as I try to "pull" out a decades-old imbedded splinter from my husband's finger.  In the last month it has swollen up on his knuckle.  No skin opening as it healed over many years ago.  Any advice on utilizing clay to pull the splinter out?
...I sent an email to an associate to get his opinion on particle sizing as it pertains to clay.

He had a surprising yet interesting perspective:

"It is the thickness that generally relates best to the clay’s surface area, and therefore to its reactivity. The thinnest clay mineral crystal is probably smectite, which is composed of 0.9 nm-thick sheets, which are just one unit cell thick. When they form stacks of crystals, with swelling at their interfaces, the stacks of particles are of course much thicker. I don’t know much about a-b plane clay sizes."

I tend to look at particle sizing from the perspective of bio-availability/activity, but his perspective is certainly something to consider!
We can't even confirm exactly what these minerals were.  Without doing X-Ray diffraction, they could have been anything.  This particular work could NEVER be duplicated, because the original supplier did not have any more of the raw material, and refused to even say where they mined it from.

Not the best science, in my book, as least as far as identifying and studying the source materail.

200 nanometers is larger than 100 nanometers.

The clay that was ACTUALLY used in Africa for Buruli was sized at about 20 microns in diameter.

You should read this article very carefully, as it challenges the central idea of "killer clays":


We also have a complete copy of the entire ASU study done in the science section at Eytons' Earth.

Here is a typical definition of what a clay particle is:

"Grain size is classified as clay if the particle diameter is <0.002 mm, as silt if it is between 0.002 mm and 0.06 mm, or as sand if it is between 0.06 mm and 2 mm. Soil texture refers to the relative proportions of sand, silt, and clay particle sizes, irrespective of chemical or mineralogical composition."

The smallest is about 2000 nanometers, here... about 2 microns.

We might state that fully micronized zeolite can "defy" this definition, if the (mainly European) studies on fully micronized zeolite are correct as far as classifying particle size characteristics!

Clay minerology is quite complex.  I suppose we could change the definition of what makes clay, clay... but we've personally done testing on all of the popular clays used in natural medicine.

Clay is special because it selectively interacts with the environment.  This is likely due to its crystalline nature.  Once you break the particle down to the point where it does not have crystalline properties, that's when I believe it is no longer clay.

You should know that very few companies selling or mining clay get it right (accurate classification).  Sometimes, they even sell clay as one type, and it turns out to be another type altogether.

Terramin also makes the claim of super secret small minerals, but we had it tested (we love the clay by the way, we're just talking scientific accuracy here) by one of the nations experts on clay mineralogy, and we were able to classify it properly.

Now, you might have particles made up of SiO2 (for example), and this is a very small particle, and you might accidently THINK that it is clay; and it may even be in the clay... it may have even been clay at one time, but now it's simply a weathered fragment of smectite (as an example).
I think 200 nanometers is smaller than 100, right?

This clay was unique in that they were very small particle size, 200 nanometers," or one four hundredth  of human hair, Williams says. Their suppliers—French companies Agriletz and Agricur—could not say where the clays came from,[/size][/size]
Hi -

The reason that clays are so fascinating is because of the complex characteristics which come with clay's crystalline properties.

In the "nano" world, clay particles are HUGE.  When you break them down, they become something other than clay.  All of the properties that make clay useful disappear, and you have something else in their place.

The smaller a particle becomes, the more dangerous it becomes, and you then have to really know the exact size, shape, and charge of the particle to understand how it is going to work in the body.

I'm not aware of anything out there that could be considered "clay" that has smaller particles than micronized zeolite, say around 0.1 microns in diameter.  That is 100 nanometers.  And even these tiny micronized zeolite particles lose some of the valuable properties that, say, micronized particles at 10 microns possess.

There may be something else out there that I'm not aware of.  It took me a long time to "get on board" with the use of crushed rock (micronized zeolite) as compared with traditional use therapeutic clays!

Are any of the clay nano sizes?
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